Thursday, 27 February 2014

MEDJUGORJE - APPARITIONS OF THE VIRGIN MARY...

MEDJUGORJE- APPARITIONS OF THE VIRGIN MARY

 
..some Medjugorje memes to objectify the intemperate hype...
 
 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 
....amen
 

 
 
 

Sunday, 23 February 2014

VATICAN VERDICT MEDJUGORJE.....

VATICAN VERDICT MEDJUGORJE FORTHCOMING....

 
..in the meantime here are some amusing Medjugorje Memes to quell the suspense...
 
 


 


 

 

 

 

 
 
...amen
 
 
 
 

MEDJUGORJE MEMES | The miracle of the sun....

MEDJUGORJE APPARITIONS BANNED BY THE CHURCH

 

 

 
 
 
 

 
 

 
 
...amen
 
 

Saturday, 22 February 2014

MEDJUGORJE | NEWS

MEDJUGORJE NEWS
 

..some Medjugorje Memes....











..amen

MEDJUGORJE MADNESS

Medjugorje Madness
 
..some Medjugorje Memes....

 
 

 
 

 

 
 
..amen
 
 
 

MEDJUGORJE & AUTHORITY

MEDJUGORJE and AUTHORITY

 
 
 

 
..let us Pray for Our Brother's and Sisters that they may find the reason which guides their affections to will the good that we may be united in charity and justice .....amen

Contributors

Contributors: About Me

john konnor


I am a Catholic of good conscience who amid the spiritual noise and intemperance rashness and anti virtuous confusion of the Phenomenon of Medjugorje through reasonable diligence and by the norms of the Church seeks to provide a sensible counter balanced discernment in cogency with the mind of the Church which Jesus founded through the traditions of his apostles..


......just like Elijah at the cave I seek to hear the voice of God not in the noise of the wind which is the ever changing mercurial views of the people enslaved by curiosity nor in the earthquake which is meant to mean the spirit of sin which comes from the prince of the earth who is the Devil nor in the fire which is intemperance and imprudence (rashness) but in the still small voice of spiritual contemplation which is characterized by humility and trust and walking the ways of the Gospel of Christ by taking up his cross and forgetting the self....amen


24 Then Jesus said to his disciples: If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

---Matthew 16:24  (Douay Rheims)

 

….”And He proposes this doctrine, not to His disciples only, but in common to the whole world, saying, "If any man will," that is, if woman, if man, if king, if free, if slave; there are three things mentioned; "let him deny himself, take up his cross, and follow me."”

--Chrys:(St. Thomas, Catena Aurea (The Golden Chain)  Gospel of St. Matthew 16, Lectio 6.

….”Hilary: We are to follow our Lord by taking up the cross of His passion; and if not in deed, yet in will, bear Him company.”

(Ibid)

 

…..to follow not only in deed but in WILL is the key and by ignoring the will of the Bishop at Medjugorje we do not bear Christ company since  the good Bishop bears no parity in character to the hands of the Sanhedrin or the hands of Pilate  or the hands of the Centurions yet Christ submitted himself calmly in obedience to these unjust judges how much should we at MEDJUGORJE submit ourselves to the Good Bishop yet the proponents of Medjugorje do not see this and through their disobedience feel they are doing God a great service which is a tragedy at best …..amen

Monday, 17 February 2014

MEDJUGORJE & AUTHORITY

DE HERETICO COMBURENDO???..Regarding the heretic who is to be burnt...

 
 
 
...at one time it would have been Auto-Da-Fe'...now it's a world-wide following...
..with a mansion in the U.S.A.....
 
 
...thank you so much Michael Voris...
 
 ..watch the other informative piece here..
 
 
...amen
 
 
 



Sunday, 16 February 2014

MEDJUGORJE POPE FRANCIS' VERDICT....

MEDJUGORJE POPE FRANCIS' RULING....THE CALUMNY CHAPEL OF MEDJUGORJE

 
......Calumny.......
 

-Calumny of Apelles, Sandro Boticelli Circa 1495
 
....commentary on the painting....
 
On the right of the painting sits Midas with very large ears, extending his hand to Slander while she is still at some distance from him. Near him, on one side, stand two women—Ignorance and Suspicion. On the other side, Slander (Calumny) is coming up, a woman beautiful beyond measure, but full of malignant passion and excitement, evincing as she does fury and wrath by carrying in her left hand a blazing torch and with the other dragging by the hair a young man who stretches out his hands to heaven and calls the gods to witness his innocence. She is conducted by a pale ugly man who has piercing eye and looks as if he had wasted away in long illness; he represents envy. There are two women in attendance to Slander, one is Fraud and the other Conspiracy. They are followed by a woman dressed in deep mourning, with black clothes all in tatters—she is Repentance. At all events, she is turning back with tears in her eyes and casting a stealthy glance, full of shame, at Truth, who is slowly approaching.
 
-Lucian (On Calumny)
Calumny

Latin: (Calvor, to use artifice, to deceive)

“Etymologically any form of ruse or fraud employed to deceive another, particularly in judicial proceedings. In its more commonly accepted signification it means the unjust damaging of the good name of another by imputing to him a crime or fault of which he is not guilty. The sin thus committed is in a general sense mortal, just as is detraction..... Objectively, a calumny is a mortal sin when it is calculated to do serious harm to the person so traduced. Just as in the instance of wrongful damage to person or estate, so the calumniator is bound to adequate reparation for the injury perpetrated by the blackening of another's good name. He is obliged (1) to retract his false statements, and that even though his own reputation may necessarily as a consequence suffer. (2) He must also make good whatever other losses have been sustained by the innocent party as a result of his libellous utterances, provided these same have been in some measure (in confuso) foreseen by him. In canon law the phrase juramentum calumniae is employed to indicate the oath taken by the parties to a litigation, by which they averred that the action was brought and the defence offered in good faith.”

-Catholic Encyclopedia

..we see that in MEDJUGORJE serious harm has been meted upon the Authoritative character of two good Bishops at Mostar since many in the clergy as well as the lay faithful have openly ignored his directives....which is to desist from attributing any supernatural character to these messages...and to submit all messages to him.. the current 4th commission had not abrogated his authority on the matter & it is the Bishop’s canonical duty to guide the faithful and many have willfully ignored this duty to comply...thus spreading scandal in the Church and leading many to complicit membership of the CALUMNY CHAPEL OF MEDJUGORJE...



-Taking of Christ, Caravaggio 1602

..now if one is objective and uses reason along with faith in the articles and laws of the Church one is able if guided by Counsel (prudence or the execution of right reason guided by the HOLY SPIRIT)..one will see that the sin of detraction and calumny is being committed against the good BISHOP of Mostar as well as his predecessor....since many proponents of MEDJUGORJE willfully claim that he has never had any authority but only personal opinion equivalent in measure to any lay person to discern these visions or to vanquish the promotion of such phenomenon as a supernatural occurrence....indeed this is no true..since according to the Canons of Church of which God is the first efficient formal cause we see it written...

Can. 375 §1. Bishops, who by divine institution succeed to the place of the Apostles through the Holy Spirit who has been given to them, are constituted pastors in the Church, so that they are teachers of doctrine, priests of sacred worship, and ministers of governance.

Can. 377 §1. The Supreme Pontiff freely appoints bishops or confirms those legitimately elected

...so one sees the Bishop is entrusted with the duty to govern the faithful with whom he is entrusted...the Pope has appointed such Bishop and so if one defies a Bishop they are defying the Supreme Pontiff indirectly....true Bishops who compel us to sin are not to be obeyed since this would fall out of the spiritual jurisdiction of their authority..however at MEDJUGORJE two good Bishops have never given anyone permission to sin through a directive....and so according to the law of the Church we are bound to obey....indeed until the results of the 4th commission are made public the faithful are bound by the Bishop’s ruling as well as the Zadar Commission of not to make any pilgrimage a validation of supernatural events which call for further study if necessary....

Indeed the apparition itself has calumniated the Bishop which is quite quite a pity...from the chronicles of the apparition one reads...

"On 19 06 1983, being present the visionaries Jakov, Marija and Ivica, Our Lady appeared. After having answered some questions about the sick, by herself began to talk about you, Excellency. These are the thoughts that she told me : Tell the Bishop that I seek a quick conversion from him towards the happenings in Medjugorje, before it is too late. May he accept these events with plenty of love, understanding and great responsibility. I want him to avoid creating conflicts between priests and to stop publicizing their negative behaviours.
The Holy Father has given all bishops the duty to fulfill certain tasks in their respective dioceses. Among these, bishops are to solve problems and arguments. The bishop is the spiritual father of all the parishes in Hercegovina. For this reason I seek his conversion towards these events. I am sending my second-last warning. If what I seek does not come about, my judgement and the judgement of my Son await the Bishop. This means that he has not found the way to my Son Jesus
.

...what judgement could the Virgin be speaking of since private revelations are never required for eternal salvation since they are not part of the deposit of faith and no one is obliged to believe...indeed the Virgin by making this statement is damaging the Bishops freedom and repudiating his fidelity to the doctrines of the Church...in effect she is saying he is a BAD Catholic....and so giving the faithful more fodder with which to defame his good character...

As well one reads.....

"26 April 1982 Monday
The bishop - she says – doesn’t possess a scrap of the true love of God for those two.
With regard to the bishop, Ivica and Ivan should be peaceful because he has placed a too heavy load on their shoulders, only to get rid of them. In fact, he has begun with the younger (friars) and then more and more forward [...] The bishop is not acting according to the will of God, and can do what he wants. But one day justice will be done, of the sort you haven’t seen for a long time. I will begin to slowly tidy all this and many Friars will be irradiated by a great happiness.
"

..now only God is the just judge...for Our Lady to read the breadth and depth of one’s soul in such a way is incorrect theologically speaking ...true we can judge whether a person has acted in a sinful manner but we cannot judge the content of the soul...by this statement Our Lady has caused many people to have a negative impression of the Bishop who is only doing his duty according to God’s Church which is no sin...it is calumnious for Our Lady to speak this way and as Pope Francis said recently in a homily..calumny is a device of the DEVIL....



“Calumny aims to destroy the work of God, and calumny comes from a very evil thing: it is born of hatred. And hate is the work of Satan. Calumny destroys the work of God in people, in their souls. Calumny uses lies to get ahead.” Be in no doubt, he said: “Where there is calumny, there is Satan himself."
http://www.news.va/en/news/pope-calumny-destroys-the-work-of-god-in-people

-Pope Francis

..many good Catholics have been deceived by the spin doctors who promote MEDJUGORJE as a place where supernatural apparitions occur ..these are effectively bypassing the lawful agents of the Church....some do this through lack of prudence some do this knowingly and so incur greater guilt before God....

..now let us all examine ourselves through a spirit of honesty and simplicity so that we do not let the vice of the devil implant itself insidiously in our soul...amen

MEDJUGORJE POPE FRANCIS & THE CALUMNY CHAPEL


MEDJUGORJE & THE CALUMNY CHAPEL

....Calumny from the Catholic Encyclopedia is defined as....



-Calumny of Apelles, Sandro Boticelli Circa 1495
Calumny

Latin: (Calvor, to use artifice, to deceive)

“Etymologically any form of ruse or fraud employed to deceive another, particularly in judicial proceedings. In its more commonly accepted signification it means the unjust damaging of the good name of another by imputing to him a crime or fault of which he is not guilty. The sin thus committed is in a general sense mortal, just as is detraction..... Objectively, a calumny is a mortal sin when it is calculated to do serious harm to the person so traduced. Just as in the instance of wrongful damage to person or estate, so the calumniator is bound to adequate reparation for the injury perpetrated by the blackening of another's good name. He is obliged (1) to retract his false statements, and that even though his own reputation may necessarily as a consequence suffer. (2) He must also make good whatever other losses have been sustained by the innocent party as a result of his libellous utterances, provided these same have been in some measure (in confuso) foreseen by him. In canon law the phrase juramentum calumniae is employed to indicate the oath taken by the parties to a litigation, by which they averred that the action was brought and the defence offered  in good faith.”

-Catholic Encyclopedia

..we see that in MEDJUGORJE serious harm has been meted upon the Authoritative character of two good Bishops at Mostar since many in the clergy as well as the lay faithful have openly ignored his directives....which is to desist from attributing any supernatural character to these messages...and to submit all messages to him.. the current 4th commission had not abrogated his authority on the matter & indeed it is the Bishop’s canonical duty to guide the faithful and many had willfully ignored this duty to comply...thus spreading scandal in the Church and leading many to complicit membership of the CALUMNY CHAPEL OF MEDJUGORJE...



-Taking of Christ, Caravaggio 1602

..now if one is objective and uses reason along with faith in the articles and laws of the Church one is able if guided by Counsel (prudence or the execution of right reason guided by the HOLY SPIRIT)..one will see that the sin of detraction and calumny is being committed against the good BISHOP of Mostar as well as his predecessor....since many proponents of MEDJUGORJE willfully claim that he has never had any authority but only personal opinion equivalent in measure to any lay person to discern these visions or to vanquish the promotion of such phenomenon as a supernatural occurrence....indeed this is no true..since according to the Canons of Church of which God is the first efficient formal cause we see it written...

Can. 375 §1. Bishops, who by divine institution succeed to the place of the Apostles through the Holy Spirit who has been given to them, are constituted pastors in the Church, so that they are teachers of doctrine, priests of sacred worship, and ministers of governance.

Can. 377 §1. The Supreme Pontiff freely appoints bishops or confirms those legitimately elected

...so one sees the Bishop is entrusted with the duty to govern the faithful with whom he is entrusted...the Pope has appointed such Bishop and so if one defies a Bishop they are defying the Supreme Pontiff indirectly....true Bishops who compel us to sin are not to be obeyed since this would fall out of the spiritual jurisdiction of their authority..however at MEDJUGORJE two good Bishops have never given anyone permission to sin through a directive....and so according to the law of the Church we are bound to obey....indeed until the results of the 4th commission are made public the faithful are bound by the Bishop’s ruling as well as the Zadar Commission of not to make any pilgrimage a validation of supernatural events which call for further study if necessary....

Indeed the apparition itself has calumniated the Bishop which is quite sad...from the chronicles of the apparition one reads...

"On 19 06 1983, being present the visionaries Jakov, Marija and  Ivica, Our Lady appeared. After having answered some questions about the sick, by herself began to talk about you, Excellency. These are the thoughts that she told me : Tell the Bishop that I seek a quick conversion from him towards the happenings in Medjugorje, before it is too late. May he accept these events with plenty of love, understanding and great responsibility. I want him to avoid creating conflicts between priests and to stop publicizing their negative behaviours.
The Holy Father has given all bishops the duty to fulfill certain tasks in their respective dioceses. Among these, bishops are to solve problems and arguments. The bishop is the spiritual father of all the parishes in Hercegovina. For this reason I seek his conversion towards these events. I am sending my second-last warning. If what I seek does not come about, my judgement and the judgement of my Son await the Bishop. This means that he has not found the way to my Son Jesus
.

...what judgement could the Virgin be speaking of since private revelations are never required for eternal salvation since they are not part of the deposit of faith and no one is obliged to believe...indeed the Virgin by making this statement is damaging the Bishops freedom and repudiating his fidelity to the doctrines of the Church...in effect she is saying he is a BAD Catholic....and so giving the faithful more fodder with which to defame his good character...

As well one reads.....

"26 April 1982 Monday
The bishop - she says – doesn’t possess a scrap of the true love of God for those two.
With regard to the bishop, Ivica and Ivan should be peaceful because he has placed a too heavy load on their shoulders, only to get rid of them. In fact, he has begun with the younger (friars) and then more and more forward [...] The bishop is not acting according to the will of God, and can do what he wants. But one day justice will be done, of the sort you haven’t seen for a long time. I will begin to slowly tidy all this and many Friars will be irradiated by a great happiness.
"

..now only God is the just judge...for Our Lady to read the breadth and depth of one’s soul in such a way is incorrect theologically speaking ...true we can judge whether a person has acted in a sinful manner but we cannot judge the content of the soul...by this statement Our Lady has caused many people to have a negative impression of the Bishop who is only doing his duty according to God’s Church which is no sin...it is calumnious for Our Lady to speak this way and as Pope Francis said recently in a homily..calumny is a device of the DEVIL....



“Calumny aims to destroy the work of God, and calumny comes from a very evil thing: it is born of hatred. And hate is the work of Satan. Calumny destroys the work of God in people, in their souls. Calumny uses lies to get ahead.” Be in no doubt, he said: “Where there is calumny, there is Satan himself."

http://www.news.va/en/news/pope-calumny-destroys-the-work-of-god-in-people

-Pope Francis

..many good Catholics have been deceived by the spin doctors who promote MEDJUGORJE as a place where supernatural apparitions occur ..these are effectively bypassing the lawful agents of the Church....some do this through lack of prudence some do this knowingly and so incur greater guilt before God....

..now let us all examine ourselves through a spirit of honesty and simplicity so that we do not let the vice of the devil implant itself insidiously in our soul...amen

Friday, 14 February 2014

MEDJUGORJE MADNESS POPE FRANCIS AND THE VATICAN COMMISSION RULING

MEDJUGORJE MADNESS



..................... link: http://new.livestream.com/churchmilitanttv/events/2762001
...amen

MEDJUGORJE MADNESS WITH MICHAEL VORIS AND E. MICHAEL JONES

MEDJUGORJE MADNESS




.....................  link:    http://new.livestream.com/churchmilitanttv/events/2762001
...amen

ANSWERS TO CRITICISMS OF MEDJUGORJE: A REBUTTAL


A rebuttal of answers to criticisms of MEDJUGORJE

 
It is normal for prudent people to be wary of false prophets....some believe that Mary is truly appearing in Medjugorje and this is imprudent..since the Church and qualified Bishops have studied the phenomenon and found that the supernaturality of the alleged apparitions cannot be affirmed...to believe in variance to the  mind of the Church is quite simply putting one’s salvation in jeopardy by opening one’s intellect to the possibility of dodgy doctrine...and so a little poison taints the whole supply since all truth which comes from God is pure..so a small bit of leaven from the Pharisees will destroy ones faith..as it says in scripture..


14 Now they had forgotten to bring bread; and they had only one loaf with them in the boat. 15 And he cautioned them, saying, "Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and the leaven of Herod." 16 And they discussed it with one another, saying, "We have no bread." 17 And being aware of it, Jesus said to them, "Why do you discuss the fact that you have no bread? Do you not yet perceive or understand? Are your hearts hardened?

-Mark 8:14-17

..what Jesus means is we should beware of the faith of the Pharisees and of Herod who relied on their own counsel rather than relying on the will of God…now the will of God resides in his Church and in his magisterium who act through accepted Church teaching and who guide us through directives that are not sinful or impossible to follow…so we see in Medjugorje two Bishops as well as a Bishops conference have already said nothing supernatural occurring regarding apparitions…this is not to say the sacraments are bringing forth good fruit yet the deception is polluting the faith of the converts since they believe the authority of the Bishops does not come from God but is only arbitrary..rather like anyone’s personal opinion and this is the poison of Medjugorje…latitudinarianism..which is a sort of restricted indifferentism closely related to Protestantism..it is a material heresy


..here are some accusations which this article would like to buttress….


1.      Medjugorje is the work of the devil

 
...it is certainly possible for Satan to deceive..so let us look if there are signs of deception...

-          Eucharist: This is the body of Christ ....why would the Devil ask us to receive his enemy?....answer....to promote millions of sacrilegious communions which do not promote unity within the Church and which are in open defiance of the good Bishop’s supplications to cease from public veneration of the alleged apparition...

[26] For as often as you shall eat this bread, and drink the chalice, you shall shew the death of the Lord, until he come. [27] Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. [28] But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of the chalice. [29] For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord. [30] Therefore are there many infirm and weak among you, and many sleep.

---1 Corinthians 11:26-30   Douay Rheims

..so one sees we need examine ourselves thoroughly through a strict examination of conscience..always with a view to unity of the Church through Charity…

 

Confession: ..this is a chance for us to undo the sins that we were tempted into by Satan, why would Satan get us to undo his work?...answer...Satan does not mind if we receive communion in a sacrilegious manner and confession our sins while still defying the Church and promoting Medjugorje as a place with supernatural visions..this is disobedient and a sin against prudence..and so our trips to the sacraments are subverted by obexes (obstacles) to grace..namely disrespect for the magisterium (sin against the 4th commandment) honouring your father and mother spiritually as well as temporally...and since the commandments are set up so that if we break one we break all of them since they are all based in charity, faith and hope we effectively subvert the Church when we break them and open ourselves up to being set into a state of grave sin which we should avoid.....while if one does this unknowingly then the guilt of complicity falls upon those who promote medjugorje as a safe place to visit and claim the mother of God is appearing here which is in opposition to the official Church .....


 Reading the Bible:  This is our guide for Christian living, it is totally against Satan....answer...even the Devil can quote scripture and pervert it to his own ends..as we see when the Devil tempts Jesus in Matthew 4..as well in Genesis 3 the Devil quotes scripture out of context as we see many people doing who espouse Medjugorje...

Peace:  since when does the devil promote peace...answer..the devil does not promote peace at MEDJUGORJE he promotes concord of wills diametrically opposed to the magisterium of the Church... 

….There can be concord in evil between wicked men. But "there is no peace to the wicked" (Isaiah 48:22). Therefore peace is not the same as concord….

-thomas Aquinas


..since many people gather at this place in agreement of one cause albeit in defiance of the one who sits as the arbitrator and so acts by the will of God we see this is not peace but only the gathering of rebel wills…it is rebellion and this has as its root pride which is the sin of satan…

 

Fasting:. Fasting is a way of heightening our awareness. Take the exact opposite, having eaten too much. Most of us have had that bloated feeling at some time or another: and my, how it affects us! We feel dull, lethargic, sluggish. Awareness can be dulled by many kinds of over-indulgence, not only food, but also alcohol and even being slumped for too long in front of the TV. Fasting is a way of restoring the balance. A little bit of self-denial can open us up to God, by making us more aware, more alert, as we move through life. Open, in fact, to our own depths, where God is often to be found, in the silences and in the questioning that we usually keep away by another bar of chocolate, another film or another beer. Fasting challenges us to find a discipline again, in which these things are held in a more healthy balance. Why would Satan want us to open ourselves up to God ?....answer.....fasting without obedience to God’s will is like the leaven of the Pharisees it subverts the faith of God which we have been given and this is what the devil loves...we never look to the Church to guide us..we look to ourselves while we use the Church to make us look pious in an outward way by attending the sacraments..while inwardly we are not mortifying our will..and so this is the spirituality of the Pharisee....which Jesus warns us to ignore...

 

2..Anyone can claim to see our Lady, how can we prove these apparitions are really happening?

..answer...we can trust the Zadar commission and the judgement of two local Ordinaries...it cannot be ascertained that anything supernatural is occurring.... as Jesus says a good tree produces good fruit and a bad tree bad fruit...as Aquinas tells us...


Article 1. Whether good can be the cause of evil?


Objection 1. It would seem that good cannot be the cause of evil. For it is said (Matthew 7:18): "A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit."

Reply to Objection 1. As Augustine says (Contra Julian. i): "The Lord calls an evil will the evil tree, and a good will a good tree." Now, a good will does not produce a morally bad act, since it is from the good will itself that a moral act is judged to be good. Nevertheless the movement itself of an evil will is caused by the rational creature, which is good; and thus good is the cause of evil.

..now thousands of pilgrims to medjugorje who make their pilgrimage a validation of the supernaturality of the alleged appairitons at Medjugorje have a will inclined to evil which is the bad tree Jesus was referring to..since all these pilgrims choose either knowingly or unknowingly to go against the Churches decree of not allowing private pilgrimages which attempt to validate these apparitions as coming from the mother of God…according to a may 1998 letter written by Cardinal Bertone to Bishop Aubry…


….” Finally, as regards pilgrimages to Medjugorje, which are conducted privately, this Congregation points out that they are permitted on condition that they are not regarded as an authentication of events still taking place and which still call for an examination by the Church. Letter to Bishop Aubrey”..


which means we cannot assume the virgin is appearing here and promote this publicly….which is also the crux of the recent CDF letter to the USA Bishops

….” It follows, therefore, that clerics and the faithful are not permitted to participate in meetings, conferences or public celebrations during which the credibility of such "apparitions" would be taken for granted”..


.....which means we are not allowed to promote these messages....publicly


3.  Medjugorje has not been approved by the Church-I  should not be following it yet

...answer...yes


4.   The visionaires priests and villagers only wanted to bring people to Medjugorje to make money out of souvenirs and tourist related ventures..

...answer....that is for God to judge  the motivation of each person’s heart


5.Medjugorje is a propaganda stunt...

..answer...one wonders what is going through the minds of the seers..if they understand the importance of submitting to the magisterium in order to make their claims more credible..if this would have happened then peace would have ensued instead of all this incessant quarrelling...


If Medjugorje is fake why is Father Jozo still so dedicated to it despite the torture and imprisonment he received from the communists?

..answer...he is rebelling against the authority of the Bishop of Mostar & the Zadar Commission which is the official judgement of the Church and so let anyone who has no cognitive confirmation bias discern for themselves....


....amen

Monday, 10 February 2014

MEDJUGORJE VATICAN COMMISSION COMPLETES INVESTIGATION

JESUS SPEAKING HELPS MEDJUGORE COMMISSION

john konnor




..at MEDJUGORJE people look to the sky for the VIRGIN...

...Meanwhile....


....Jesus speaking in the Eucharist reminds us...

...why are you looking up there when I am down here....




[31] And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty. [32] And all nations shall be gathered together before him, and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: [33] And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. [34] Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. [35] For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in: [36] Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. [37] Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, and fed thee; thirsty, and gave thee drink? [38] And when did we see thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and covered thee? [39] Or when did we see thee sick or in prison, and came to thee? [40] And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me. [41] Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels. [42] For I was hungry, and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me not to drink. [43] I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you covered me not: sick and in prison, and you did not visit me. [44] Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee? [45] Then he shall answer them, saying: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me. [46] And these shall go into everlasting punishment: but the just, into life everlasting

-Douay RHeims bible Matthew 25:31-46

...amen

MEDJUGORJE VATICAN COMMISSION: JESUS SPEAKING HELPS COMMISSION

JESUS SPEAKING HELPS MEDJUGORE COMMISSION

john konnor
 
 

 
..at MEDJUGORJE people look to the sky for the VIRGIN...
 
...Meanwhile....

 
....Jesus speaking in the Eucharist reminds us...
 
...why are you looking up there when I am down here....
 

 
 
[31] And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty. [32] And all nations shall be gathered together before him, and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: [33] And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. [34] Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. [35] For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in: [36] Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. [37] Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, and fed thee; thirsty, and gave thee drink? [38] And when did we see thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and covered thee? [39] Or when did we see thee sick or in prison, and came to thee? [40] And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me. [41] Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels. [42] For I was hungry, and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me not to drink. [43] I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you covered me not: sick and in prison, and you did not visit me. [44] Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee? [45] Then he shall answer them, saying: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me. [46] And these shall go into everlasting punishment: but the just, into life everlasting

-Douay RHeims bible Matthew 25:31-46
 
...amen